In this episode of ’74PODCAST Series “How Can We All Make it into the Future?”, Pınar Yoldaş, professor and all-in-one designer, whose works deal with art, neuroscience and ecology through the lens of speculative fiction, and Gabriel Kozlowski, architect researching and teaching at MIT, and Assistant Curator for the 17th International Architecture Exhibition – La Biennale di Venezia 2020, talk about