Episode 1: Emanuele Coccia in conversation with Gabriel Kozlowski

In this episode of URBAN NATURE, Emanuele Coccia and Gabriel Kozlowski talk about the relationship of ecology with economy and politics, both in history and in the present. Coccia argues that we call natural environment is a form of artifact, artificially produced by living beings, and that the solution to our future is a spatial one, as a form of new modes of cohabitation between species.

“We forget that ecology and economy are twin sisters. In the sense that they are sciences that share the same name—remember: ecology starts as “economy of nature”—, they share the same concepts, the same epistemological frameworks, and the same metaphors. (…) for instance, the metaphor of invisible hand that produces an order, a balance, was present from the start in both ecology and economy.” – Emanuele Coccia
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6xixQME02qnhZkn8nHqvFq?si=52b7571becdd4255

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